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Uses Scripture to back up his points he also uses research studies practical examples and organized charts and graphs to make his points On the plus side I appreciated the practical academic nature of many of his arguments On the other hand Cole utilizes a lot of acronyms and terms throughout which got both confusing and annoying especially because I was reading half a dozen of these books at the same time Overall I found this among the better half of the what is wrong with the church Books I Ve Read I ve read I found this book to take the same trajectory as many of the nonfiction information laden books I read The first third of the book I was captivated and fascinated I read every sentence and took copious notes As the book wore on though I began scanning and reading the headlines and skipping larger and larger sections that seemed unnecessary and superfluous In Church 30 Neil Cole explains and espouses the organic church model a model he terms church 30 Learning about the church model was very informative and interesting Beginning in chapter four however he begins comparing the organic church movement to other movements that are happening across the country and the world Perhaps this is the postmodern in me he discusses postmodernism and its effect on culture and the church fairly extensively in chapter one but I grow suspicious of anyone who knocks down other Christian movements as being wrong In my opinion and having been part of many different church movements throughout my lifetime I strongly believe God works through all of them I strongly dislike any time Christians tear one another down which is what Cole seems to be doing to other church movements Why can t we just accept that God reaches people in a multitude "of ways and get along Why is it so important that "ways and get along Why is it so important that way of doing church and worshipping God is the right wayI agree with many of Cole s conclusions based on my own study of the Bible and personal experiences I just don t like the tone he seems to convey in the latter chapters of his book I understand of course that this book s purpose is to espouse the benefits of the organic church movement but that doesn t change the fact that it makes me uncomfortable that there is a strong tone of superiority that comes off the pageI d recommend the first three chapters of the book They are enlightening and educating I d even hesitantly recommend the rest of the book but not for intensive reading Or Study Great Insights study Great insights challenge many common practices in our church culture today This book made me think and is calling me to consider the concept of church through the eyes of Jesus A must read for anyone wanting to live Christianity outside the walls of the church buildin. Dle children finances and other important uestions Written by an acknowledged expert who is now and has been for over twenty ears an organic church planter and practitioner A new Leadership Network title and follow up to Organic Church Church 30 offers solid information about organic churches based on Cole's extensive experience in starting nurturing and mentoring in the organic church movemen. Ened in a good long TIME I HAVE WATCHED A COUPLE I have watched a couple videos and really like what I saw This book confirms much of what I d come to believe of his grasp of the needs of the modern church Highly readable Cole has much to offer in the way of understanding the struggles of discipling in the modern "Context I Believe I Shall "I believe I shall to buy a hard copy or Kindle companion go back over some salient passages I want to share with others 449 stars A top to bottom summary of the whats whys and hows of house church ministry which Cole calls organic church Church 30 makes a powerful biblical and practical case for house churches as the only vehicle for a disciple making church planting movement that multiplies in several streams to the fourth generation and beyondOrganic does not mean unorganized Cole ably sketches the practicalities of how house churches are structured and how they do day to day ministry including topics such as children the sacraments and financesIf Lindsay and the Lifeguards you care about participating in an explosive spread of the gospel to save lives this book could beour game changer It certainly moved me further down a winding path of thinking and practice I have begun walking on What is missing is a bridge from Church As We Know It Church 20 to Church 30 both for an individual and for an organization Maybe Cole secretly believes that no bridge exists especia This is my seventh or eighth book detailing how the American Christian church needs to evolve if it wants to stay relevant and reach the world for the sake of the gospel In Church 30 Cole argues that the early church immediately after Christ s crucifixionresurrectionascension was version 10 Cole uses the analogy of operating system versions and the institutionalized church beginning about 300 AD was version 20 Since then we have been stuck in an obsolete version for 1700 ears hence the need for version 30 Like the other books Cole calls for a missional church model although he doesn t condemn the church growth model as most other books have he simply sees the current church growth model as ineffective and that a missional model would spur far larger and uicker growth Similarly Cole s call for discipleship partially roots itself in the belief that only through the scalability of discipleship can the church grow exponentially uicker and larger and effectively Cole calls for improved training of church leadership with a move away from the Pastor as CEO model to pastors with deeper understandings of theology and apologetics and communication skills Cole s prose throughout is far intellectual than other books of this kind others tend to be exhortative pointing to Scripture as if the reader didn t understand how the early church operated While Cole. Inances children heresy leader training and rituals and ordinances Without the top down structure of a denomination even people who are proponents of this small house church model worry that they are not doing it rightOffers an important resource for anyone involved with or thinking of starting an organic or house church Addresses practical issues of theology rituals doctrinal heresy how to han. Church deconstructed and reworked Great principles for the new church When reading books about the church I find that often I read the first three or four chapters lose interest and then put it aside Many of the authors make their statement and then seem to just restate their premise or add detail to support it This was one of those that I put aside in the middle because Cole was repeating things that I had read in previous books When I went back to it later I found some ideas and principles that apply to discipleship and starting churches Reading through the book ou are constantly reminded that much of what we do in Church 20 is driven by tradition and custom Cole digs through the various elements of what is called church to discover what is essential and how the changing cultural landscape is transforming how we think of church One of the most insightful aspects of the book is his study of groups by size and the purpose each serves As he points out the church has unfortunately been attempting to accomplish its function using groupings that are not appropriate for the task at hand An example is using mass meetings as discipleship venues when this is a task better accomplished in a smaller intimate setting Even if The Value of Optimism you do not agree with everything he says Cole makesou think and evaluate what ou are doing as church and what ou are doing it Neil Cole is one of "The Best Voices Talking "best voices talking a new Church for the 21st centuryAs with many of those voices really he is talking about going back To Scripture And Seeing What Scripture and seeing what there to bring to the Church of the third millenniumAlthough I do not agree with everything he says in his book there is a lot of great material contained within itI intend on writing myself a note for when I complete seminary to go back and re read this book as it will remind me why I want to be involved in Church leadershipI would encourage all Christians to read Cole s book It is challenging insightful and brings up many uestions about the failings we can see in the way the Church has been run in the past Cole has made all this very readable and clear and has a good command of Scripture An excellent book on organic church and operating a church with a missional mindset and mode Cole does a great job touching on both the theological basis for such a church as well as addressing practical uestions I had some doubts in the beginning but it is not a book against the organized religious forms but can be a good addition to existing structures some challenge and inspiration of course also some things to debate I especially liked the parts about the different New Testament churches and the today examples Two five star ratings on the same day I don t think that s happ. An expert practitioner answers to uestions about the burgeoning organic church movementNeil Cole's best selling book Organic Church described the fastest growing segment of contemporary Christianity the so called organic church Now in this next step book he answers uestions about how to deal with theological and organizational issues that come up He talks about issues such has what to do with Church 30

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